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James White Like an Atheist?
03/14/2006 - James WhiteI was just reading a post by Michael Dries of Christ Community Church, Folsom, CA, which likened me to an atheist and refers to my "sophistry." I think I'll respond to Mr. Dries on the DL this morning, and if perchance he should be made aware of this (I looked for an e-mail address, but could not find one), I invite him to call in. I'd love to dialogue about his assertions.
Today on the DL...
10/03/2006 - James WhiteStarted off with a few brief comments on the "ct/Michael Dries" discussion. A full melt-down is underway with this person, who now says she (yes, she) only the Dries name as a cover on the Puritan Board. In any case, took calls today on Islam and a more in-depth call on the topic of John 1:1 and Jehovah's Witnesses. Here's the program (well, that will be the link when we get it working---right now it isn't working properly. Keep trying---it will work eventually!)
Oh, OK, That Makes Sense Now
10/03/2006 - James WhiteNow it all makes sense. Michael Dries, the KJV Onlyist who melted down on the Puritan Board back in March, is c.t., i.e., owner/writer of Plain Path Puritan. Now it all makes sense, including the desperate dishonesty, the cultic denial of salvation to anyone who rejects KJV Onlyism, etc. I simply didn't make the connection in reading his one article. Upon being challenged to document his "quotation," he has melted down yet again (John 8:44, Rev. 21:8, KJV). Unable to back up his libelous falsehood, he has instead decided to multiply it repeatedly by falsely attributing all sorts of inane things to me. Read it for yourself. Those who already reject KJV Onlyism for the error it is should just shake their heads at this kind of behavior. But you know who should be seeking Mr. Dries' repentance and correction? His fellow KJV Onlyists. This kind of outrageous behavior gives them all a black eye. Of course, Mr. Dries knows the phone number to the Dividing Line. He will not call. He knows he cannot back up his lies, so he will just sit behind his keyboard trying to think up new ways to disturb the peace of the church and attack the brethren. The elders of his church should be most wary. I have seen this kind of zealot split more than one fellowship.
Quick Update: I see now, looking around a bit on his blog, that Mr. Dries has been banned not only from Team Pyro but by Dave Armstrong as well. That says a lot. And if you scroll down a ways you will find a graphic with Doug Wilson on one side and centuri0n on the other. Anyone who has Doug Wilson and centuri0n in a graphic about getting to the celestial city is obviously quite disturbed. Time to stay as far away from him as is humanly possible, though I confess, I would love to hear an attempted explanation of why so many of the Puritans hated the KJV, or why Calvin corrected the TR, etc. But instead, I press on. Writing a chapter on "pandering to pluralism" right now. Must get it done in a matter of hours.
On Painting with Broad Brushes
03/20/2006 - James WhiteA lot of you were a bit shocked at the vitriol expressed by Mr. Dries a few days ago. Believe me, in the years since I wrote The King James Only Controversy I've seen it all before. "You God-hater! You Bible-hater! You are trying to destroy people's faith!" etc. and etc. Emotionalism is an ever-present part of dedication to that particular system. And for the few who thought that might bother me, let me assure you: after the fiftieth time you are called the "high priest of the Alexandrian cult" or the like, it really doesn't have the sting it once had.
Some might say, "Hey, you are painting with a broad brush." I wasn't painting at all. There is a wide, loud, vitriolic stream of KJV Onlyism out there. Ruckmanism, Riplingerism--call it what you will. Even Mr. Dries, an alleged Calvinist, was promoting a book written by a hyper-dispensationalist whose views are very much in line with Ruckman. Are all KJV Only folks a part of this stream? No. In fact, men like David Cloud, though anti-Reformed and surely guilty of poor research in the field, recognize the utter incongruity of the kind of behavior exemplified by these folks and a profession of faith in the Bible: he well knows how difficult it is to maintain some kind of decorum as a promoter of the KJV and yet refrain from behaving in the Ruckmanesque style. He takes heat from that "side" all the time, for to be anything less than utterly nasty is to "compromise" from their viewpoint.
While I was in the UK I sat down over lunch/dinner with a fine Christian brother. I could never identify this brother simply because he would never hear the end of having broken bread with the anti-Christ himself. Let's call him Rob. I think he would accept the identification of at least being TR Only, if not KJV Only. We discussed, specifically, the Comma Johanneum. We did so forcefully, but in the bonds of brotherhood. I did not convince him, he did not convince me. I personally think I asked some questions that I hope he will think through, but the fact of the matter is that he will remain my brother in Christ whether he does or does not. I pray for him, appreciate his kind spirit and his smiling countenance, and I hope and pray that he recognizes in me the Spirit of Christ and the heart of one who loves the Lord. Not everyone "over there" is as nasty as Mr. Dries.
But it is just here I have to point out that Rob is the exception that proves the rule. In other words, it is his rarity that exemplifies the attitude we saw in the Dries e-mails, that we see in Stauffer's twisting of almost anything I say, in Ruckman's writings, etc. and etc. The fact that a conversation with him is memorable proves that most of the conversations I have had were just the opposite. It is hard to get very far when the other person identifies you as a "devil-priest." So, I am truly not seeking to paint with a broad brush: I appreciate the minority in that camp that can hold their position without putting me on a greased aerodynamic bobsled destined for a lightning fast ride to the seventh level of hell itself. But the fact that those folks are in the minority is just that: a fact. Anyone who would dare to address the issue directly, as I have, knows I speak the truth.
A Bit More on Stauffer
03/18/2006 - James WhiteEvidently Dr. Stauffer is a hyper-dispensationalist, limiting the NT Scriptures that are "for the church" to the Pauline epistles, etc. No wonder his "exegesis" of Titus 2:13 is next to impossible to understand. David Cloud writes,
According to Stauffer, Paul is THE spokesman for the church age (p. 17); the general epistles of Hebrews to Revelation, while containing some church age applications, are actually written for Great Tribulation saints (pp. 20, 27); salvation is obtained by works during the Tribulation (p. 23); Hebrews and James do not teach eternal security (pp. 23, 29); Peter did not preach the gospel of the grace of God (p. 26); the seven churches of Revelation 1-3 are not the body of Christ (p. 29); the epistle of first John teaches that salvation is through works (p. 56); the book of Acts was not given “to show how to establish the local church or its functions” (p. 72), Abraham had to keep his salvation through works (p. 175).He likewise identifies Ruckman as the source of Stauffer's views. Irony of ironies. Mr. Dries, who claims to be a Calvinist, relying upon Ruckmanite hyper-dispensationalism. The world is truly an odd place at times.