Alpha & Omega Ministries Apologetics Blog
Today on the Dividing Line
10/25/2005 - James WhiteThough at an odd time, we packed the hour with more reviews of Islamic debates...continuing the Shabir Ally debate, but also looking at some others Sam Shamoun has done that truly make you wonder. Listen in!
Change in the Dividing Line Time Tomorrow
10/24/2005 - James WhiteTomorrow we will move the DL from 2pm EDT to 7pm EDT. I'm heading to Tampa on Wednesday, speaking Thursday and Friday in Brandon, flying red-eye back, and then flying to Southern California for a big Reformed Baptist gathering on the Lord's Day in celebration of the Reformation. I'll be speaking about six times over the course of this trip on Reformation themes. Anyway, I have one last shot to get a grueling ride in, and that's tomorrow morning, so...we are going to give me enough time to get it done without feeling rushed. Besides, there won't be a Thursday edition.
We will be continuing the Shabir Ally debate. I was listening this morning to some other debates Sam did against other Islamic apologists on PalTalk, and I must confess...they all made Shabir Ally look very, very good, comparatively. One of his opponents, named Osama, tried to argue that Mohammed is predicted in Isaiah 42. Let's see if you can find the reference:
Isaiah 42:10-12 10 Sing to the LORD a new song, Sing His praise from the end of the earth! You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it. You islands, and those who dwell on them. 11 Let the wilderness and its cities lift up their voices, The settlements where Kedar inhabits. Let the inhabitants of Sela sing aloud, Let them shout for joy from the tops of the mountains. 12 Let them give glory to the LORD And declare His praise in the coastlands.
Don't feel badly if you can't find it---it is so utterly fallacious it is hard to imagine anyone ever thought it up. Isaiah 42:11 refers to Kedar. This Islamic apologist argued that Kedar was one of Ishmael's sons (Gen. 25:13), and since Jesus only went to Egypt and back to Palestine, then this can't be about Jesus, it must be about Mohammed! He insultingly said Jesus fled Egypt "like a rat," seemingly ignorant of the fact that the Lord was an infant at the time. In any case, look at the context and see that there is nothing about the Messiah going to Kedar: the passage is like so many others indicating that the good news of what Yahweh did for Israel would be heralded outside the borders of Israel itself. Such horrific eisegesis demonstrates how vacuous and empty are Islam's attempts to find Mohammed in the Christian Scriptures.
Today on the DL
10/20/2005 - James WhiteContinued the Sam Shamoun vs. Shabir Ally debate today, and even heard Shabir argue that Revelation 14 informs us that women will not enter into paradise! You have to hear it to believe it. "When Bad Jehovah's Witness Arguments Get Picked Up by Muslim Apologists." Sounds like a bad B movie, the stuff of Mystery Science Theater 3000. Anyway, here's the program.
Today on the DL...
10/18/2005 - James WhiteI forgot to provide the link to last Thursday's DL. Here it is. We continued the review of the Ally/Shamoun debate on that program, and today as well. Lots of interesting topics addressed. Here is today's program.
Today on the Dividing Line: Sam Shamoun vs. Shabir Ally, the Bible and the Qur'an
10/11/2005 - James WhiteDespite technical difficulties, we pressed on with the DL today, playing the opening sections of the 2000 debate between Christian apologist Sam Shamoun and Muslim apologist Shabir Ally, as noted in the previous blog entry. I began responding to claims made by Ally in the second half hour of the program. This series of DL's will take some time to complete, but I believe it will be well worth the effort. Click here to listen to the first installment.
Beginning a New Series on the Dividing Line
10/10/2005 - James WhiteI was riding northbound last Saturday morning listening to a debate which took place a few years ago between our good friend Sam Shamoun and Islamic apologist Shabir Ally. I have been collecting Ally's on-line materials of late, and had been horrendously frustrated at the men he has chosen to debate. Up until listening to Sam's debate, I simply hadn't heard anyone really take him on properly. Well, I truly enjoyed listening to the debate, and wanted to share the debate with the audience of The Dividing Line. But more than that, I wanted to respond to Ally's claims one by one, something even Sam didn't get to do, given the brief time constraints of the debate itself.
Ally likes to use liberal Christian writings (especially Jesus Seminar style materials) to attack the Christian faith while refusing, of course, to apply the standards used by those sources to the Qur'an and Islam itself. Sadly, few of those he debates are prepared to engage that kind of apologetic. At times as I listened I could almost translate Shabir's Arabic-tinged accent into John Dominic Crossan's Irish lilt, for the words, in many instances, were identical. He also likes to throw out statements about textual criticism that simply make one cringe. In any case, there were so many statements made by him on such a wide range of topics that I felt taking time on the DL to review and rebut them would provide us an opportunity to address a tremendously wide range of apologetic issues, from textual criticism to the Trinity, the deity of Christ, the gospel, etc. So we will be following the pattern we have established in reviewing anti-Calvinist sermons in examining Ally's claims.
If you would like to listen to the entire debate ahead of time to see where we will be going, they are available on line here.
Today on the Dividing Line
10/06/2005 - James WhiteToday was pretty much an Open Phones program, and despite it being an hour early, we had plenty of callers to get through the entire hour. We tackled everything from the emergent church movement to Crossan to Dave Hunt to...to...yes, amazingly enough...eschatology! [gasps, shock] Here's the program.
Time Change on the DL Today
10/06/2005 - James WhiteJust a quick note. Today is somebody's birthday (whose name will remain a secret), so we will be moving the DL up an hour so that somebody's wife can take him to dinner this evening (and no, it is not my birthday). So, instead of 7pm EDT, we will begin at 6pm EDT, 3pm PDT.
Today on the DL
10/04/2005 - James WhiteToday on the Dividing Line we concluded the three-part series in response to Jack Graham's anti-Calvinism sermon, and then took calls. Here's the program.